Leaked APD Internal Affairs tapes reveal major leadership schism on proposed DEI hiring practices

Recordings of a 2021 Anchorage Police Department (APD) Internal Affairs investigation obtained by the Landmine reveal that now-APD Chief Sean Case faced serious internal pushback when he attempted to implement a DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) system that would treat APD applicants differently based on gender and race.

According to the recordings, Case wanted APD to allow certain applicants to miss mandatory appointments, create a separate off-site testing location at the Cook Inlet Tribal Council building that would segregate minority applicants from white males, allow minority applicants who failed an APD test to re-take it in three months instead of the standard six month waiting period, and prioritize minority applications.

The Internal Affairs investigation resulted from an unsubstantiated accusation of an alleged racist comment made after a meeting Case held with Lieutenant Shaun Henry and Sergeant David Abbott regarding recruitment. After the recruitment meeting, someone made a complaint to Internal Affairs alleging that Lieutenant Henry told Captain Josh Nolder – his former captain – “All Alaska Natives are drunks and rapists.”

In his Internal Affairs interview, Nolder stated that Henry had never made that comment.

Nolder told Sergeant Bryan Ranger, who was conducting the investigation, “He [Henry] never said – because I’ve already heard this reported now – he never said all, he never said natives. He said ‘Alaska Natives,’ but he didn’t say all Alaska Natives are drunks and rapists. He never said that.”

After the recruitment meeting with Case and Abbott, Henry went to Nolder to express concerns he had with Case’s ideas to modify recruiting. In his Internal Affairs interview with Sergeant Ranger, Henry said he and Abbott “strongly objected” to Case’s ideas because they wanted to keep the testing process “fair and impartial.”

Henry told Ranger, “Case alluded to that he intended to have this testing cycle done with applicants that had previously failed the test when taking it at the APD facility. And he wanted to invite the failed applicants back but not include the white applicants that had failed, just the people of color.”

In his Internal Affairs interview, Case claimed that after the meeting with Henry and Abbott, he had heard that they told their subordinates, “Case wants to eliminate the white applicants.” Case stated that Henry and Abbott “weren’t willing to think about increasing diversity.” Case was unhappy that his subordinates and other officers were not on board with his recruitment ideas. 

“I would say that the level of resistance to having this conversation was so high, they probably heard about ten percent of what I was saying. For instance, they really got stuck on fair. This isn’t fair,” Case told Ranger.

Later in his interview, Case said he spoke with Nolder after Nolder had spoken with Henry. According to Case, Nolder told him that Henry had said Alaska Natives had a hard time getting through the hiring process because “they’re busy drinking and raping their women.” Nolder made it clear to Internal Affairs that Henry had never said this.

Henry stated that he went to talk to Nolder after the meeting with Case because he was concerned “this whole topic had the potential to cause some serious liability issues to the department. And so I wanted to go to Captain Nolder as a peer of Captain Case and see if maybe they had spoken at captain level about it.”

Nolder, who said he does not have the best memory, told Ranger that Henry had told him, “What’s wrong with Sean [Case]? Is he going crazy?” Nolder said he tried to get Case and Henry to understand each other’s perspectives, which he said was easier for Henry because he shared Henry’s views. 

Nolder said that he believed it was important to have a process that’s fair for everybody. “If we have barriers in that process, we figure out what those are and we deal with those. We don’t circuit the system or short circuit the system to create more people to be able to get through the process based upon the color of their skin,” Nolder told Ranger. 

Nolder said that his conversation with Henry went sideways when Henry made a comment along the lines of “Alaska Natives have a higher rate of sexual assault, or SAM, one of the two, sexual assault of a minor or one of the two, and alcohol related crimes or alcoholism. He said something along those lines. Now, I had a visceral reaction to it, which is part of the reason why I can’t exactly remember what he said. But I was like, immediately stopped and said, you can’t talk that way. I understand what you’re saying. Like, I guess statistically that that all may be true, but it’s not appropriate for us to say it like that.”

It’s not clear if Case was the person who made the complaint to Internal Affairs about Henry. But in his interview, Nolder said that Case had texted him asking exactly what Henry said because he wanted to launch an Internal Affairs investigation. Nolder said he felt this was not necessary.  

In Henry’s interview he said he did not recall making derogatory comments to Nolder about Alaska Natives, and was surprised to hear the accusation. “Everything I did was trying to prevent potential liability for the department and expressing my disagreement with Captain Case’s proposal. And I was pretty firm, adamant, on that. But nothing that was derogatory or defamatory or anything towards anybody.”

Henry also told Ranger about a different meeting he had heard Case had with Abbott and a Sergeant Jensen. Henry told Ranger:

And he [Case] told them back in this meeting in January, I was not present, but they came to me afterwards and relayed that “the days of hiring white male cops are over.” And I kind of took at the time as a flippant remark, just sort of like, hey, you know we need to work on increasing our diversity, which I’m 100% for.

I’m all about increasing our recruiting efforts in that field, trying to find more diversity. But I believe firmly that when it comes to the actual investigation and selection process, it needs to be fair and impartial to everyone, regardless. It doesn’t matter what their skin color is or their sex or anything. They all get the same shake. So that was my strong objection to this proposal.

After Mayor Suzanne LaFrance defeated former Mayor Dave Bronson in 2024, she appointed Sean Case as police chief. Former Anchorage Mayor Dave Bronson told the Landmine that he was unaware of this investigation, but did say that Case was never going to be chief while he was mayor. 

Case and APD did not respond to several questions from the Landmine, including whether Case was implementing, or wanted to implement, the DEI policies that he had advocated for in 2021.

The Landmine repeatedly requested comment from Captain Nolder, Lieutenant Henry, Sergeant Abbott, Sergeant Ranger, and APD Internal Affairs. None responded.

The full interviews are below:

Sean Case

Josh Nolder

Shaun Henry

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Scott
20 days ago

Jeff:

Willing to elaborate how you obtained these recordings?

I’m wondering if this is something APD normally makes public or if this was part of a FOIA or maybe a whistleblower type thing?

Please don’t reveal anything that might get someone in trouble. Just interested to know if APD made these recordings available to the media or if this is something they would have preferred never got out?

BTW-hell of a way to embarrass the “Jeff isn’t a journalist” people. THIS IS JEDI LEVEL REPORTING!

Anon
19 days ago
Reply to  Scott

oh this absolutely was not released via public record request. Internal affairs investigations are under lock and key with very few people having access. They are some of the most confidential records at APD. I would bet my right arm that APD is going to be focused way more on trying to figure out how Jeff got these rather than the concerning content contained.

Dan Svatass
20 days ago

The mind spins at the level of hearsay here: “Henry also told Ranger about a different meeting he had heard Case had with Abbott and a Sergeant Jensen.” Person 1 told Person 2 about a meeting that Person 3 claimed occurred amongst Persons 4, 5, and 6. One level of hearsay almost always too much to be allowed in court. This is four levels of hearsay. Note how Landfield never vouches for the credibility of any of his sources, something real journalists always do. Ethical journalists describe their source’s position or relationship to the information to help the audience understand… Read more »

Scott
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

Come on Dan, the audio from the APD interviews is attached. I’d say the source(s) are pretty well established.

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Scott

You don’t understand what hearsay is.

Irrelevant that the medium is audio tape. Audio tape, written transcript, blog post, semaphore flags, doesn’t matter.

ANC v0ter
14 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

I hope you spend as much energy holding the NYT to your standards of journalism Mr. Svatass. Seems like every other day there is a prominent headline about testimony provided by so-and-so, where the content is mostly just claims/statements made on the record by an individual (frequently an individual of somewhat dubious credibility) often with little independent corroboration by the outlet itself – aside from additional quotes of what other people have said. As long as an outlet is transparent about who is saying what, I think journalists across the political spectrum frequently publish hearsay without vouching for the credibility… Read more »

Anon
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

It’s not a source talking to Jeff it’s leaked IA files, recordings attached, that contain all this information. I think you’re confused.

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Anon

Doesn’t matter that it’s on audio tape. Audio tape is not magically true.

This is hearsay, four times removed from the speaker making the statement. One time removed is almost always excluded in court for being insufficiently reliable.

Jesse
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

God bless you, I understand hearsay but you are misrepresenting it. These are 100% the voices of Ranger, Case, Henry, and Nolder. Of course each participant or at least one party on the recording would need to listen to the audio in its entirety to verify the authenticity if this were actually presented in some sort of legal proceeding. That is NOT what is being offered here. Dear Lord, common sense people…..insert huge eye roll. Suffice to say, these appear to be accurate representations of Ranger’s interviews of CASE, Nolder, and Henry. I can tell you unequivocally, it is each… Read more »

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Jesse

I’ll focus on the substance, not the patronizing personal attacks. I am not saying that the voices on the tapes aren’t Ranger, Case, Henry, and Nolder taling about an alleged meeting between Case, Abbott, and Jensen. Sure, the tapes themselves could probably be authenticated by the interviewer (Ranger) or the people being interviewed (Case, Henry, and Nolder). This isn’t an authentication issue. I am saying that the assertions of facts stated on the tapes are multi-level hearsay and are beyond unreliable as evidence of what was said at the meeting. I am also saying, for the reasons I detailed, that… Read more »

Jesse
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

My apologies and yes I do agree with that. Case is less than honorable and my hackles were clearly raised on yet another good Officer(s) being drug through the mud by the likes of this little dictator. I can now only imagine the Department resources that will be directed at said “leak”. The internal “APD Memes” inquiry is proof of that.

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Jesse

Thanks for the apology.

Dan
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

Sunshine is the best disinfectant. This is what sunshine looks like. I understand your concerns about context and hearsay, but we know more about the internal affairs of the APD because of this reporting and we are well served by that knowledge. I just struggle to believe that you would rather not know this information.

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan

My concern is that may of the key details in this story lacks indicators of truth. It’s all gross hearsay, a form of information that is so unreliable that it’s rarely permitted in court. The source who talked to Henry about the key meeting between Case, Abbott, and Jensen, and about what was allegedly said there, is completely hidden and undescribed. Why? Who is the person that allegedly told Henry the meeting story? And how did that person learn about what was said there? Landfield didn’t do what journalists do, which is: explain how this person came to learn about… Read more »

John
18 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

Are you concerned that the source may not be a city employee?

Dan Svatass
18 days ago
Reply to  John

It’s not my main focus, no.

But sure, it would be bad if APD investigative materials were illegally retained by someone who no longer works for the Muni. And then selectively circulated to a gossip blogger for effect? Yow.

Lots of concerning things here.

Jesse
19 days ago

Case has always been a slimy little chameleon throughout his tenure at APD. The proverbial jack of all and master of none. His hypocrisy knows no bounds and the crap that has come out of that boys mouth over the years is laughable. He has always been threatened by Henry. Henry has routinely stood for what is right for the Department and the Community. A trait that has come at great cost. Case absolutely tried to change the hiring practices and lower standards as discussed and like any little dictator, when he didn’t get blind support he attempted to utilize… Read more »

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Jesse

Case has always been a slimy little chameleon throughout his tenure at APD. The proverbial jack of all and master of none. His hypocrisy knows no bounds and the crap that has come out of that boys mouth over the years is laughable.

-Jesse

Okay, now we can see how fairly you’re approaching this matter lol.

Ailani Kauʻi
19 days ago
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floridawoman
19 days ago

What is the price of oil? How has SB21 served us? SennBishop said he would lead the effort to repeal SB21 if (when) it failed to be good for Alaska’s coffers. Crickets from our next governor.

Oh wait why cover such?

Look a shinny thing convo hear say rumor….

Sheila
19 days ago

How much did Alaskans for Prosperity pay Fireball Fatty to write another heresay gossip piece?

caleb
19 days ago

i recall not so many years ago when to be anyone above the paygrade “patrol officer” you had to be a member in good standing with the Anc Bapist Temple. The entire leadership of APD was thru the right reverend Dr. Prevo. Not bothering with all the drivel this article headline suggests, sounds like a lot of sour grapes that since prevo’s blessed departure, changes have been a happening at APD, and the good ol boys don’t like that. What else is new?

Bernice Anna
19 days ago

It is surprising that an individual who professes a strong commitment to diversity would remove Bianca Cross, a highly respected Black woman, from the position of Chief in order to assume the role himself. This raises concerns about his integrity and commitment to the values he claims to uphold.

Reggie Taylor
19 days ago
Reply to  Bernice Anna

Diversity/perversity. Diversity has absolutely nothing to do with assigning the best candidate for the job.

Dan Svatass
19 days ago
Reply to  Bernice Anna

You’re saying that Sean Case removed Biana Cross from the position of Chief of Police.

That Case removed her “in order to assume the role himself.”

That NEVER happened.

Dan Svatass
18 days ago
Reply to  Bernice Anna

Nothing in that Bronson press release supports your blatant lie.

NOTHING!!!

Bernice Anna
18 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

https://alaskapublic.org/2024/06/25/incoming-mayor-lafrance-changes-out-anchorage-police-chiefs/

Sometimes, no matter how much evidence is presented, belief is a choice.

Dan Svatass
18 days ago
Reply to  Bernice Anna

You’re still just lying.

Nothing in that news article says that Sean Case removed Bianca Cross from the position of Chief of Police.

That, in your words, Case removed her “in order to assume the role himself.”

Why are you still lying about this? What’s your reason?

Reggie Taylor
18 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

“………Why are you still lying about this? What’s your reason?……..”
Diversity. The mere word justifies any and everything.

Jesse
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan Svatass

You’re absolutely right Dan! Case hid under LaFrance’s skirt while she made the crappy decision. Case’s Mother-in-law and LaFrance are college besties. Weird huh?

Dan Svatass
18 days ago
Reply to  Jesse

lol

Absurd.

Anon
18 days ago

I’m a little worried honestly. As a potential Police recruit for APD. It seems like Case may have compromised integrity and is not fit for a leadership role. The very practice of DEI is making sure every single individual is treated fairly and honorably throughout the process, not giving certain groups special treatment.

Terrence
18 days ago
Reply to  Anon

You sound too delicate for actual police work. It’s not for everyone.

Jusy saying. As a friend.

Reggie Taylor
18 days ago
Reply to  Terrence

“………You sound too delicate for actual police work………”
Delicacy is just another feature required under an ideology of Diversity.

Tina
18 days ago

Its not that Alaska Native men have a hard time passing the process for APD hire
Its they are overlooked

There are Alaska Native men with good character working as security officers. Vpso, and other employments
Because those employers didn’t overlook them unlike the municipality of anchorage

G.S.
18 days ago
Reply to  Tina

The qualifications for employment with Alliance Security that pays “do-nothngs” to stand around at the Loussac Library are much lower than qualifications for employment at APD or even Fred Meyer for that matter. The lowest bidder provides the very low-skilled security personnel at local libraries where these “do nothings” smile and give a pass to anyone who openly consumes hard liquor there, sleeps for extended periods in the easy chairs, and looks at pornography or other filth at the third floor computers. Alliance security standards could not be lower than they are! Thankfully APD tried to hire the best people… Read more »

Marlin Savage
18 days ago

In the 1980’s, I was raising a baby Daughter alone. Prior to Her birth, I had been working on construction projects all over remote areas of Alaska. I had nobody to babysit, and daycare businesses didn’t want children whose parent worked long, irregular hours. I needed a steady job with set hours, and since new post offices were popping up all over town, I decided to apply for a job with the post office. I was a college graduate with a Bachelor of Science in Business Management, and a Veteran (2-year draftee sergeant, so no pension). I took the post… Read more »

Gary
17 days ago
Reply to  Marlin Savage

Bless you for your endurance to make a good life for your daughter!

Gary
17 days ago

statistically that that all may be true, but it’s not appropriate for us to say it like that.” Oh gawd! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣